Price Action Swing Trading - The PAST Strategy

Nigel Price

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ya stop loss moved to BEP. But as I don,t know when to exit,profit is going down. So please help me with exit strategy

If you could post a chart, or tell us what instrument/timeframe you are trading, we might be able to help Mandir, otherwise we are all pretty much in the dark here!

Generally the exit strategy is as outlined above, i.e. when your stop is at breakeven, you are looking to let the trade develop. When a reversal signal appears on the higher timeframe, only then would I think about closing the trade.

Yes, it is tough to run winners Mandir, but it does become easier with practice.

I'm sorry I can't be more specific, but you haven't really given us much to go on here! If you post a chart of your set-up I might be able to comment on it, otherwise that's the best I can do :eek:
 

Nigel Price

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Needless to say, I got stopped out for on my FTSE short earlier this afternoon for -15 points.

A nice little reminder that it can be very, very difficult to short equities!

I see that price is above that trendline I was referring to, so I'll be standing aside until we see the bears beginning to show that they are at the races here at all.
 

mandirkumar

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so u mean to say when u see reversal signal on anchor chart then only u close the trade means exit. Nigel has told only two reversal patterns, what about other patterns that may take new trend?
 

Nigel Price

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so u mean to say when u see reversal signal on anchor chart then only u close the trade means exit. Nigel has told only two reversal patterns, what about other patterns that may take new trend?

Hey Mandir!

Everything you need is in Chapter 11 of the ebook

:D:D:D
 
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stuart1984

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so u mean to say when u see reversal signal on anchor chart then only u close the trade means exit. Nigel has told only two reversal patterns, what about other patterns that may take new trend?

Hi Mandir - As Nigel has said, it might be worthwhile reading through the E-book again. The information is all there and should be relatively easy to follow even if you are new to trading. If you are still very new, there is some great beginner material available free on babypips, it could be worth a look.

To try and help you get to grips with this knowledge I have put together the following chart with explanations of all the area's that I would be considering exiting my position. I chose an H4 setup as I gather you are looking at the lower time frames for your trades:



Here is a 5 min chart of exactly the same trading period:



I think the 2 charts above, in addition to the information in the ebook should give you a clear understanding of what we are trying to achieve with this strategy.

In future, if you have questions about a trade you are in or are considering, please try posting a chart in the forum. A picture speaks a thousand words and you are far more likely to get constructive feedback from other forum users if you put the effort in to properly explain the situation you have found yourself in.

There is no escaping that learning this or any other strategy is going to take hundreds of hours pouring over charts and watching what price does.

Nigel has laid out an excellent foundation for your trading, ultimately though, you need to put in the hard graft yourself, in the long run it will be worth it.

Good luck

Stuart
 

Nigel Price

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Fantastic post Stuart - thanks for that

Mandir - I think you have definitely highlighted a valid concern though - we tend to concentrate a lot on entries and stops on here and probably not enough on taking profit.

So the next time I am making a decision on whether or not to take profit on a trade I will post my reasoning/charts on here.

It will be something very similar to Stuart's chart above - I usually either wait for a trendline break or a change in control according to the candles. It doesn't really matter what you use, as long as it is a clear indication that the market is beginning to lose momentum in your direction, and seems to be turning around.

Good luck! :)
 

Nigel Price

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Morning All

I've been a bit naughty :eek:

I've taken a short on the FTSE but price was still above that red trendline I was speaking about.

Can rules be broken in trading? Maybe for some people they can, and for others they can't. Some people stick very rigidly to a set of rules or criteria for their trading. Others will sometimes be happy to break those rules every now and again if a good opportunity presents itself.

In my trading - there is really only one rule that can never be broken, everything else is up for assessment or analysis.

My one rule is that every trade I take must make sense from a risk : reward perspective.

My potential upside must always be multiples of my potential downside.

This morning was one such occasion. I generally don't make a habit of it, but I if I see a great risk v reward opportunity, I will not let a subjectively drawn line on a chart get in the way of it.


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Nigel Price

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It's very important to remember that what I am doing here - I'm not trying to predict anything.

I am just noting on the chart what I would like to see happen.

Price may roughly follow my arrows - or, more likely, it will ignore them and just do its own thing.

The important point is that mapping out on the chart what I would like to see happen helps me to trade in a proactive rather than a reactive way.

If I have considered what price should be doing, I have embedded in my sub-conscious what I would not like to see. That helps me to very quickly move into defensive mode when price is not moving in my favour.

When price strays from my arrows, my mind quickly moves away from focusing on the reward side of the trading equation, to the risk side of the equation.

I am under attack from the bulls, and I must move to limit the damage.

Sometimes traders struggle to make this switch fast enough or sometimes even to make it at all.

Even when price is moving against them, and their losses are mounting, they are still focusing on how to get a profit out of the trade. When price might turn around, how long will I have to wait until this trade comes back, giving it "room to breathe".

This is madness.

Instead, their focus should not be on how to make a profit out of a trade that is clearly moving against them, it should be on how to swiftly and decisively move to limit any losses.

That is a key skill to learn.

When a football team doesn't have possession of the ball - they play in a certain style. They keep their formation, their line, their discipline. They track back, get tight to their opponents, watch for runs, press their opponents into making a mistake.

Then, when they win the ball, the style flips. Instead of marking your opponent, you try to move into space, you run forward, you attack.

Attack, defence, attack, defence.

The teams that can quickly transition from one to the other at the right time will always have an advantage.

Same for traders :D
 

Nigel Price

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we're back up at that yellow box level I highlighted earlier.

I haven't brought the stop to b/e yet, as we seem to be just ranging today.

Like it or not, the market ranges and consolidates far more often than it moves to any real appreciable degree.

We can only trade what is in front of us, and do so to the best of our ability.

:)
 

stuart1984

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i mentioned the DAX too a few days ago - looks nice if we close out today around current levels...

I am really enjoying these posts Nigel. Some great insight into how you think.

I like the look of the DAX but I am even more interested in the FRA40. Will try and post a chart later with my reasoning.

Stuart
 

Nigel Price

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I am really enjoying these posts Nigel. Some great insight into how you think.

I like the look of the DAX but I am even more interested in the FRA40. Will try and post a chart later with my reasoning.

Stuart

Cheers Stuart - my FTSE got took out overnight for a 5 point loss.

Shorting equities should come with a health warning!

Let's just stay patient here and let the bears show us their hand before we commit though.

Yes, I see the French index has a very similar set-up. They all look very tempting.... but until we see some movement to the downside, we will have to stay patient.

I'll post anything I do in here. :)
 

Nigel Price

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I hope some of you watching this have noticed that I have gone over two weeks now without a decent winning trade.

I have been trying on the SP, the FTSE and now the CAC.

Am I happy about that?

Not at all - it is frustrating and annoying.

Am I going to throw in the towel?

Certainly not.

The winners do come - all we have to do is continue to stay disciplined, manage our capital maturely and responsibly, and the opportunities will come.

The market sees that hard work - it wants to see you putting in a bit of effort before you get your reward. No such thing as a free lunch :D:D