Price Action Swing Trading - The PAST Strategy

Nigel Price

Master Trader
Jun 26, 2013
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My stop was just tickled by price there! Out for loss number 3.

- 15 points

Don't allow this type of thing to annoy you. It is going to occur, there is nothing we can do to prevent it.

Instead of trying to avoid it, we need to recognise that is happens, and factor in our trading around it.

In this case, it means starting out with a small position size, so that a few losers in a row won't hurt us too much. We all always add the position further down the line, if it moves into profit.

One more attempt for me if a trendline breaks, and if that doesn't work out, I'll just call it a day. :)
 

Nigel Price

Master Trader
Jun 26, 2013
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Morning guys, another puke to the upside overnight, and another loss for me!

Time to take stock of where we are.

That's 4 losing trades altogether, and a couple of break-evens.

I usually include break-evens as losers in these calculations, but it doesn't matter how you do it, you could count them on the winners side either, just as long as you remain consistent.

Total Trades: 6
Average loser: 7.5 points
Average Winner: 0 (so far)
Strike rate: 0 (so far)
Total loss: 45 points

Let's roll this forward a bit…..

Say for instance, I continue on down this path, trading at these average loser levels.

Say I trade another 14 times, so 20 trades altogether, and I only get one winner in those 20 trades. So that would be a 5% overall success rate.

We would be talking about 19 losing trades, at 7.5 points each = 142.5 points.

So my winner, when it came, would need to be 143 points, or higher in order for me to be profitable overall.

Do you think that is possible? Well, the little hissy fit the market threw at the start of October was 150 points from the underside of the trendline to the bottom.

Furthermore, I was very sloppy on a couple of my trades this week - there was at least one that I should have got to break-even a lot earlier. It was nicely in profit, but I was away from the screen and missed the retrace. So, in reality, that average loser figure of 7.5 points could and should be lower.

Which would mean that the average winner size required to be profitable overall would also be lower.

There is an important point to note here.

I don't need to convince you, or anyone else, that what I have laid out above is achievable. All I need to do is to be comfortable with it myself.

It doesn't matter what trading strategy we use, what markets we trade, timeframes, styles, anything.

We must be thinking in the above way. We must project out into the future what will need to happen in order for us to be profitable, and we need to be able to have a plan in place and believe that we can achieve it.

I deal with this in great detail in the Foundation Section of the Video Course.

If we aren't doing that, and we are just trading from set-up to set-up, and hoping that profit just happens to show up at the end of the month, we are most likely going to be disappointed.

In terms of the chart - I think things look pretty clear on the Daily.


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I don't think anyone can argue that we aren't above that trendline now, and in fact we are challenging the all time record highs. As implausible at it may sound, that is a fact, and unless we see some weakness and price gets back underneath that trendline, we have no business being short.

We need to be patient, wait and bide our time. Not always enjoyable, but having the discipline to stand aside when the market is telling us to get out of the way, is an absolute necessity.

The bulls are telling us now, in very clear terms, that they have control of the market now, and we have to accept that. The time for the bears to step up to the plate was yesterday, and they failed to do it. So there'll be no bearish activity for me until they show me that they might have a chance.

Right now, they are flat on their backs and the bulls are stampeding over them. :)
 
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Nigel Price

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Ah right, I see what caused the spike now - the Bank of Japan, moar free munney.

It's a merry go round of QE, they just pass the buck from bank to bank.

One stops, then another starts.

Where would we all be without Draghi, Abe, Yellen, Carney et al. :D:D
 

stuart1984

Master Trader
Mar 22, 2014
362
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52
Scotland
Morning guys, another puke to the upside overnight, and another loss for me!

Time to take stock of where we are.

That's 4 losing trades altogether, and a couple of break-evens.

I usually include break-evens as losers in these calculations, but it doesn't matter how you do it, you could count them on the winners side either, just as long as you remain consistent.

Total Trades: 6
Average loser: 7.5 points
Average Winner: 0 (so far)
Strike rate: 0 (so far)
Total loss: 45 points

Let's roll this forward a bit…..

Say for instance, I continue on down this path, trading at these average loser levels.

Say I trade another 14 times, so 20 trades altogether, and I only get one winner in those 20 trades. So that would be a 5% overall success rate.

We would be talking about 19 losing trades, at 7.5 points each = 142.5 points.

So my winner, when it came, would need to be 143 points, or higher in order for me to be profitable overall.

Do you think that is possible? Well, the little hissy fit the market threw at the start of October was 150 points from the underside of the trendline to the bottom.

Furthermore, I was very sloppy on a couple of my trades this week - there was at least one that I should have got to break-even a lot earlier. It was nicely in profit, but I was away from the screen and missed the retrace. So, in reality, that average loser figure of 7.5 points could and should be lower.

Which would mean that the average winner size required to be profitable overall would also be lower.

There is an important point to note here.

I don't need to convince you, or anyone else, that what I have laid out above is achievable. All I need to do is to be comfortable with it myself.

It doesn't matter what trading strategy we use, what markets we trade, timeframes, styles, anything.

We must be thinking in the above way. We must project out into the future what will need to happen in order for us to be profitable, and we need to be able to have a plan in place and believe that we can achieve it.

I deal with this in great detail in the Foundation Section of the Video Course.

If we aren't doing that, and we are just trading from set-up to set-up, and hoping that profit just happens to show up at the end of the month, we are most likely going to be disappointed.

In terms of the chart - I think things look pretty clear on the Daily.


Click for large view
- Uploaded with Skitch

I don't think anyone can argue that we aren't above that trendline now, and in fact we are challenging the all time record highs. As implausible at it may sound, that is a fact, and unless we see some weakness and price gets back underneath that trendline, we have no business being short.

We need to be patient, wait and bide our time. Not always enjoyable, but having the discipline to stand aside when the market is telling us to get out of the way, is an absolute necessity.

The bulls are telling us now, in very clear terms, that they have control of the market now, and we have to accept that. The time for the bears to step up to the plate was yesterday, and they failed to do it. So there'll be no bearish activity for me until they show me that they might have a chance.

Right now, they are flat on their backs and the bulls are stampeding over them. :)

Some really good points here Nigel. I am having a bit of a frustrating week myself. I moved the Stop on my NZDUSD short to give me a guaranteed 1R trade and I was stopped out by a few pips before it turned around and dropped again.

My USDCAD short played out nicely and I was up a nice 200+ pips before FOMC this week before it turned. I wish I had exited before the news but I didn't and I closed out with about 150 pips profit however this was about 8R which is not too bad.

I have had a few other losses over the past few weeks but I just add all these stats to my log and I am confodent if I contune trading the way I am, I will contune to be profitable for the long run. knowing your stats give you confidence which is a skill that cannot be bought and is vital in this industry.

Have a great weekend everyone.

Stuart
 

Nigel Price

Master Trader
Jun 26, 2013
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Hey Guys,

I hope you are having a pleasant weekend! :D

I've written a series of posts called "The 10 Stages of my Forex Trading Apprenticeship".

Parts 1 and 2 are here.

I hope this will give you an insight into some of my background, and the what my trading journey has consisted of.

Parts 3 and 4 will be in the mid-week report.

Nigel
 

Abercrombie

Trader
Jun 13, 2014
46
0
22
California
Hope things are going well for everybody. I've been out of town for awhile relaxing in the wilderness and haven't kept up with the markets.

Nigel - I read Parts 1 and 2 of your Trading Apprenticeship with much amusement. Great read!

I also have been watching the PAST video courses and am roughly half way through. Thus far I have found it to be great information that is very useful. I look forward to the remainder of the course. Having this information early in one's trading career could really reduce the time searching for answers to the wrong questions (and time focusing on the wrong skills/aspects of trading).

Good Luck for the coming week!

Jonathan
 

Nigel Price

Master Trader
Jun 26, 2013
836
4
64
www.forexuseful.com
Hope things are going well for everybody. I've been out of town for awhile relaxing in the wilderness and haven't kept up with the markets.

Nigel - I read Parts 1 and 2 of your Trading Apprenticeship with much amusement. Great read!

I also have been watching the PAST video courses and am roughly half way through. Thus far I have found it to be great information that is very useful. I look forward to the remainder of the course. Having this information early in one's trading career could really reduce the time searching for answers to the wrong questions (and time focusing on the wrong skills/aspects of trading).

Good Luck for the coming week!

Jonathan

Thanks very much for the positive comments Jonathan, they mean a lot.

I was worried that people might not really enjoy the course, seeing as it is quite different to the most other trading material you see online.

But, as I say in the course, trading is a skill, and when you learn any skill, there are always parts you enjoy and parts you find a bit of a drag.

In trading, the majority of the stuff we see online is based on the aspects of trading that people are attracted to.

The people who are writing that material are not doing so with the primary aim of helping traders - the number one aim is to get clicks. If they can help you too, that is good, but it's not the primary focus.

I know my PAST course will never sell by the bucketload, primarily because it focuses on the less exciting, but more important parts of trading. The bits that will really drive your performance forward. Most people do not want to hear about the work that has to go into trading, they just want to see the yachts and the Ferarris. :D:D

Sections 3 and 4 of the article series will be out tomorrow or Wednesday. :)

PS Time in the wilderness? I like the sound of that!
 

Abercrombie

Trader
Jun 13, 2014
46
0
22
California
Yosemite

"The wilderness" - not the usual post and a little off topic, but this why I trade. Time do the things I love with the people I care about.

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stuart1984

Master Trader
Mar 22, 2014
362
0
52
Scotland
Evening folks

I have spotted a couple of potential setups on the daily charts. First up is the EURAUD. Big strong bull candle today after a fairly consistent down move in the last couple of weeks.



Second up is the CADJPY. JPY has been hurting since the tail of last week but we are seeing a rejection of highs we saw in May last year. It could be a fools errand trying to buy the JPY so I am going to be cautious and attempt it with half the usual risk.



Happy trading folks

Stuart
 

Abercrombie

Trader
Jun 13, 2014
46
0
22
California
Thank you Stuart for the charts.
In addition the potential setups posted by Stuart, the daily for AUDCHF caught my eye. It looks like the inverse of the EURAUD daily chart.

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stuart1984

Master Trader
Mar 22, 2014
362
0
52
Scotland
Hey traders, quick update on the setups I posted about earlier in the week.

CADJPY - I took a position on this and took half of at 2:1. The remainder was stopped out at BE. The chart still looks as though it may be turning bearish and so I will try again if I get the chance.

EURAUD - Took a H1 trend line break on this yesterday morning. Took half off at 2:1 and the rest is open with a BE stop, here is the chart showing entry:



Happy trading

Stuart